hellsunicorn said: its a pretty big coincidence I think, given the timing of everything. Economic crash—->housing bubble burst—->double dip recession—->worldwide occupations—->NDAA… Personally, I think there is a good likelyhood that there is a correlation.
The problem is that there isn’t even concrete evidence that the FEMA camps even exist. The US is a plutocracy and a military empire, no doubt about it. NDAA, militarization of the police, indefinite detention of US civilians, that’s all on the table, but not FEMA camps. That’s Alex Jones material.
It is not just Alex Jones, he just profits from the fear mongering. Many military personnel and private contractors have come out and spoken on their work at different remote military installations not listed in any military camp grids. If you’re waiting for evidence of something to believe it you’re gonna be too late once it actually happens. Sometimes it pays to listen to those who actually know what they’re talking about. Most of you are now waking up to things I knew about over 10 years ago just because I chose to believe what good and dedicated freedom fighters told me. Faith in our people, those who risk their lives to bring us information, is very important for the movement to grow.
I’m not going to have faith in anything or anyone. I never have and I never will. I know who my enemies are and I know who my allies are, and I know who can and cannot be trusted. I do not trust the FEMA camp reports, and I will wait for evidence. There is enough evidence for tangible atrocities going on right now that we don’t need to speculate and believe in theories that are not supported. If there is solid evidence for FEMA detention camps being built in this country, I will let people know. At this point, that just isn’t legitimate. Unless you want to show me solid evidence.
Holy shit this exact conversation took place in 1938 Europe.
Sure there is evidence for tangible atrocities THAT ARE ALREADY OCCURRING. How about you pay some attention and learn how to PREVENT atrocities in the first place.What is this “solid evidence” you are looking for? Piles of corpses? Train loads of prisoners? Overflowing ghettos? This shit has happened plenty of times in the past. Do you seriously need to sit and wait for solid evidence? We know the patterns, we are well versed in the processes of history and societal decline. We know exactly what happens to civilizations going through what we are going through. It’s time we stop it from happening. Don’t close your eyes to obvious truths. When you see a pattern repeating itself again and again, you gain the consciousness to break the pattern. There is no need for “solid evidence” of some specific camp. You know the ruling elite’s world view, their racism and hatred for those they feel are inferior to them. But if you want to sit back and pretend it’s not real, go ahead. Just be honest to your children when they ask “what did you do to prevent these atrocities?”
The death camps were the very last secret revealed to the people of Germany AFTER the militarization of the police, AFTER the corporate take over of their government, AFTER the protests and the Depression, AFTER everyone thought it couldn’t get any worse. Don’t be fooled like they were.
No, don’t get me wrong, I have posted this quote before and I still stand by it:
“What I believe will happen is as the oil economy collapses, those in power will attempt to maintain power by forced human labor to substitute for oil loss. ” - Derrick Jensen
I am well aware of the patterns, Endgame goes over them in great detail, especially near the end when it talks about collapse. I agree with you about the abstract, yes, of course there will be labor camps. I am talking specifically about FEMA camps. I have heard the theories for a long time, but I haven’t had concrete evidence that FEMA is building concentration camps. Regardless about the specifics, the larger pattern is clear, as you have pointed out. I think I have done a decent job at educating people about the larger patterns, where we disagree is the specifics.
Right on. I don’t know much about FEMA specifically either. If it’s real, it’s quite hidden. I heard about these camps being built back in 2007 or 2008 and there was a huge influx of photos on the intertubes that I can’t seem to find. It seemed like a big scare tactic at the time. I’ve heard travelers tell me about unoccupied camps surrounded by fences and barbed wire. Who knows? It would make sense for FEMA to do it though as they are the organization for “problem relief.”
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